Thursday, October 25, 2007




Today's Local Real Estate News: "In the coming weeks and months, buyers should expect sellers to keep dropping home prices."

Housing data came out yesterday and the three major South Florida new papers reported on the situation. The Miami Herald explained:

“Prices of homes and condos in Broward County dropped in September compared with a year ago, a sign that stubborn sellers may finally be accepting the reality that they are no longer able to get the sky-high prices of the boom years.”

“Broward's single-family home sales were off last year's number by 46 percent; condo sales declined 39 percent. But prices also fell -- the median home price down 7 percent year-over-year to $345,200 while condo prices slipped 15 percent to $174,600.”

“In Miami-Dade, single-family home sales were more than cut in half for the month, dropping 53 percent from September 2006. Condo sales were similarly off 47 percent. Home prices were mostly flat at $372,300, and median condo prices rose 2 percent to $275,000.”

“Gabriella Berenyi, a seller in Oakland Park, said she will not budge further on her price.”

“Nearly a year ago she put her three-bedroom lakefront condo up for sale, asking $289,000. She found few interested buyers, and the ones she found couldn't qualify for a mortgage. So she dropped her price to $279,000.”

“‘This has been the worst experience,’ she said.”

“‘But I don't believe in going down too low [on the price] because I invested so much remodeling it. If I go down too low, I can't get any money out of it. So I am trying to rent it out now; people say prices will go up in six months or a year.’”

The Palm Beach Post reported the following:

“The housing decline has been under way for more than a year, and analysts say it could be at least another year before the market plateaus, based on September existing-home sales reports.”

“The median price for an existing single-family home in Palm Beach County dipped to $355,300 in September, down 3 percent from $365,500 in September 2006, as sellers continued to hold out for their asking prices despite heavy market pressures. The number of homes sold in the county fell 17 percent, to 471 from the 566 homes sold in the same month one year ago.”

“In Martin and St. Lucie counties, the news was even worse. The Treasure Coast posted the second-steepest home-price decline in the state. The median price plunged to $202,000, off 17 percent from a year earlier, when the median was $244,300, the Florida Association of Realtors said Wednesday.”

“‘Mortgage money is very tight now,’ said housing analyst Jack McCabe, chief executive of McCabe Research and Consulting in Deerfield Beach. ‘Prices are going to continue to drop. From 2007 to the end of 2009, you're going to see a 35 to 40 percent drop off the market peak.’”

The Miami Herald reports that the housing downturn is not just a local phenomena; it’s a national problem:

“Sales of existing homes had a record decline in September while median home prices fell by the largest amount in nearly a year, reflecting deepening problems in the troubled housing market.”

“Analysts said the current downturn is already more severe than the housing slump of the 1990s. They predicted that before it is resolved, it will rival the 1980-82 housing slump. Back then, the industry was battered by double-digit mortgage rates and the economy was in a steep recession.”

“The National Association of Realtors reported Wednesday that sales of existing homes fell 8 percent in September. It was the largest decline to show up in records dating to 1999. The seasonally adjusted annual sales rate of 5.04 million existing homes was the slowest pace on record.”

The Sun-Sentinel reports similarly and even used the “C” word (capitulation):

“September's home sales plunged in Broward County, and real estate experts say fewer sales and declining housing prices reflect the continuing trend in South Florida, the state and the nation.”

“Buyers are deterred by the state's property tax and insurance crisis, stiffer mortgage financing requirements owing to credit turmoil, and home prices that many still can't afford. September marks month No. 21 of the region's housing slump.”

“‘The investors are gone. You have the average person trying to put a roof over his head, and prices are still unaffordable,’ said Mike Larson, an analyst with Weiss Research in Jupiter.”

“In the coming weeks and months, buyers should expect sellers to keep dropping home prices, experts said.”

“‘In last 60 days, anecdotally we're hearing about a lot more capitulations on the part of sellers,’ said Brad Hunter, a housing analyst with Metrostudy in West Palm Beach.”

“In September, sales of existing homes in Broward County declined 46 percent to 401 from 741 a year ago, the Florida Association of Realtors said Wednesday. Statewide, home sales fell even further in other cities: in Miami, 53 percent; in Orlando, 48 percent, and Fort Myers, 53 percent.”
“‘Sellers need to get a grip,’ said David Dweck, head of the Boca Real Estate Investment Club. Homeowners are not likely to sell their homes if they're not ‘priced slightly below the market and your property is not beautiful,’ he said. ‘Buyers have their pick of the litter.’”

In an amusing article, The Sun-Sentinel reported on bitter flippers who making legal moves to try and recover their pre-construction deposits now that the housing market has tumbled:

“When Jennifer Wigand put down a deposit in 2005 for a condominium in a multi-use development called Veranda at Plantation, she hoped to quickly sell it and use the profits to help pay her law school loans.”

“Then the housing market plunged. Wigand said she wasn't worried because the developer had promised she could back out any time and her money would be returned. But in July, when she asked to take part in that program, Wigand said she was told it had been canceled.”

“Like an increasing number of buyers in South Florida, Wigand last month filed a lawsuit to get out of the deal. Last week, 20 other buyers in Veranda joined her suit.”

“‘I was disappointed that the developers and their agents went back on their word,’ said the 24-year-old Fort Lauderdale resident. ‘I just want my [$39,200] deposit back.’”

“Wigand's two-bedroom, $392,000 condo is scheduled to close on Oct. 30. She said she will forfeit her deposit if the court does not grant her relief.”

“Ori Onn, a real estate agent, signed a contract in 2005 to buy a one-bedroom Phase One condo for $295,000. He put down $59,000 and like Wigand, he planned to flip it.”

“‘They told me they would put it on a resale program if I didn't go through with the deal,’ Onn said, adding he tried but was unable to reach Veranda representatives four times in the last few months to take them up on the offer.”

In an effort to avert foreclosures, Countrywide is starting to deal with some troubled borrowers:

“Countrywide Financial, the nation's largest mortgage lender, said Tuesday it will begin calling borrowers to offer refinancing or modifications on $16 billion in loans with interest rates set to adjust by the end of 2008.”

“But as defaults and foreclosures snowball, the mortgage industry is under increasing pressure to do even more to help financially strapped borrowers hang on to their homes.”

“‘People are talking about it, saying it might be necessary, but there's not a lot of it going on,’ said Guy Cecala, publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance, an independent trade publication.”

“So far this year, Calabasas, Calif.-based Countrywide said it has completed about 20,000 loan modifications -- a figure that represents less than 5 percent of the more than 500,000 loans the lender reports were behind in payments as of last month.”

“The figure amounts to about 24 percent of the roughly 82,000 loans the company said were in foreclosure.”

Now that homeowners no longer own homes that they can use as ATMs, the automobile and boating industries are suffering. Yesterday, local auto dealer giant, AutoNation, reported:

“The slumping housing market continues to leave vehicle sales in the slow lane at Fort Lauderdale's AutoNation.”

“AutoNation sold 9,632 fewer new vehicles in the quarter ended Sept. 30 compared to a year ago, a decline of almost 10 percent.”

“That drop was driven by softness in Florida and California, which account for half of AutoNation's new-vehicle business and where the housing slump has been most severe. Sales were down 11 percent in those two states.”

“Falling home values mean consumers can't as easily tap the equity to buy vehicles. And the construction slowdown has spilled over to light-truck sales.”

“‘Things will be difficult for at least [another] year,’ said Mike Jackson, AutoNation's chairman and chief executive. ‘There is no shortcut to better days, but the stabilization process has begun,’ because of last month's interest rate cut by the Federal Reserve. Still, he said further cuts are needed.”

Sales in the boating industry show which financial classes are being affected by the housing downturn. The Miami Herald reports:

“As the housing slump and the sputtering U.S. economy spur consumers to cut back, much of the boating industry is in the doldrums. The number of powerboats sold is expected to plunge about 10 percent this year, and many exhibitors at the show, which opens Thursday, are cautious about prospects.”

“Yet builders of superyachts -- boats 80 feet or longer -- have full order books with delivery dates well into the next decade.”

“‘The megayacht market is very resilient,’ says Frank Herhold, executive director of the Marine Industries Association of South Florida, which owns the Fort Lauderdale show, the world's largest in terms of exhibition space. ‘It looks like full speed ahead.’”

23 comments:

South Florida Housing Bubble said...

There are two things that caught my eyes in today's news:

(1) Only 401 homes (they're referring to SFHs) were sold in Broward County. Last month, there were 16,435 SFHs for sale in Broward and there are probably more right now.

This means that there is a 41 month supply of homes on the market. That's simply amazing.

(2) Even more amazing are the two rocket scientists that "invested" in condos in Plantation. A Realtor® paid $295k for a *one-bedroom* condo in "downtown" Plantation. A law-school student thought she could flip a $392k two-bedroom condo in the same development.

What in the world were these people thinking?

It's stories like this that show exactly how out-of-control the bubble really was.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if those flippers were some of those fools that slept out overnight with lawnchairs and pup tents just for a chance to buy one of those condos.

Anonymous said...

"People say prices will go up in six months or a year"

Yes Gabriella, people do say that. Those people are called REALTORS.

Anonymous said...

Another excellent article.
Perhaps you were Clark Kent in a past life. LOL
Amazing prediction by SS that sellers will start capitulating in three weeks. Hope they are right.
I know it worked for me, we are scheduled to close next week.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Yesterday was quite a day for housing bears. Prices down 8% nationally month over month?(thats over 100% annually) 53% SFH sales drop in Miami. Yet, somehow, Miami-dade prices continue to defy
gravity. Mark my words, rampant mortgage fraud in Miami-dade will be exposed and attributed to the buoyancy/resiliency of prices in this low volume market.

Robert said...

Those two rocket scientists who wanted to flip those condos are the breed of moron that ran prices up so high that my wife and I were priced out of the market a couple of years ago when we were looking to move into a bigger house.

Now they are a major cause of our inability to sell our house so we can get out of this area.

For some reason we are supposed to feel sympathy for these people? I could give a damn about their situation. I laugh at their loss. Ha.

A 2 bedroom $392k condo in that location? That she thought she could flip? Just how many of those stupid TLC TV shows did she watch?

I swear I'm not usually this bitter.

Anonymous said...

What is the average price of a car these days. If Americans have to use home equity to afford one, then maybe we need to examine a lot more than home prices.

140 square foot -

I am honestly surprised to hear that you bought a property. When I hear members of this list consistently say its too soon, why do you think you are not catching a falling knife, if you don't mind my asking?

-HappyRenting

Anonymous said...

140, Did you get into LHP?

Anonymous said...

SR and anon,

NO NO NO NO!!!!
I am SELLING a home, been talking about it for months!

Anonymous said...

SR & anon,

I have been trying to sell my home up North for over 1 year now.
I finally got serious and started whacking the price every month or so and when I hit the right price range (20% Lower than my Realtors thought it was worth) I started getting action. I am selling it for LESS than it cost me to build it in 1999, and they get the six acre lot free.
The market sucks but as we know, PRICE SELLS!!
It amazes me to hear moron used home salesmen and greedy homeowners say "it doesn't matter if we lower the price, it won't sell!".
The banks appraiser didn't even need to see the inside of the home, he did a "drive by" appraisal.
But I'm not popping the champagne yet, it ain't over till it's over.

Anonymous said...

I'm over this market

Over the fact that the only homes my FI & I can afford are in the "west ghetto" of Broward.

FI & I have worked hard to get ourselves where we are, we save save save & are rewarded with POOP!!

Now people put up their tiny west broward ghetto shacks at or ABOVE their insane mortgage amount so that I can pay rent on it.

YOU HAVE LOST YOUR DAMN MIND!!!

I give these people under December to realize they're going to bankrupt cause no one is going to pay what they're asking.

My next big worry is renting a place from someone who overpaid and DOES get foreclosed on.

Where FI works, he sees this on a daily basis in Pt. St. Lucie. People call to cut off their phone because their landlord got foreclosed on & the Sheriff is at their door evicting THEM!!!

I have NO NO NO NO NO NO sympathy for these investors!! NONE!! I was told by people to sell everything I had to scrimp up a small down payment and JUST BUY. Dear God in Heaven I thank you for NOT LETTING ME BE THAT STUPID.

/end rant

Anonymous said...

140 sq ft said:"I am selling it for LESS than it cost me to build it in 1999, and they get the six acre lot free."

Just curious - where is this? I mean, I thought the market in South Florida was ground zero for the housing bubble, but wherever this house is sounds much worse.

I mean, we're not even really back to mid-2004 prices here yet, and I doubt you'll ever see 1999 prices again--inflation alone will ensure that. Is this in the Detriot area or something?

Anonymous said...

pb,

LOL, close, ne Ohio. We did not see much change in prices these past 7 years. Some appreciation, but nothing even remotely close to Fla.
I owned the lot outright, and spent more building the home than I sold it for. But reading the sales news makes me feel better. At least I am getting a sale.
The realtors (I am on my second realtor in 2 years) really resisted my efforts to keep lowering the price, really makes me think they are their own worst enemies sometimes. This is the only closing my agent has going on and she is smart, hard working and good.
PRICE SELLS!! Don't let anyone fool ya, if you want a sale, price it right.

Anonymous said...

140 sqft said "Close, ne Ohio. We did not see much change in prices these past 7 years"

Living in bubble-land the last 7 years had me almost forgetting that there are still places where homes are actually thought of as "a place to live" - not a get-rich-quick Ponzi scheme.

Makes sense now. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I live in one of those areas where the sellers are raising prices, and the flippers are still asking 3 times what they paid, and every street has new renovation & construction, unbelievable...this is a ritzie area, but the real world still exists..beyond the guard house. what are these people thinking....I will say homes over 2 mil are selling somewhat.but the ones under that are just sitting, I think after the birds leave, realtiy might get very real.As some of these people have weird mtgs with arms.

Anonymous said...

Right now sellers have to be realistic to sell their houses and even worse condominiums.
The problem in South Florida with buyers who bought the past 2-3 years is that they have to bring money to the closing table in order to sell their properties. If they had 20% down, or maybe 20% in equity those 20% are gone, and they have to come with another 10% to the closing table. Since this is not going to happen, most of them just don't have this type of money, we will see a lot of foreclosures. Then the bank and lenders will loose these 30%-40% we need to get back at reasonable prices.
So we are in this crisis for another 2 years at least.
Best regards.
FD @ Condo Hotel Miami Beach - Condo Hotel Fort Lauderdale

Anonymous said...

ms jupiter said...

I live in one of those areas where the sellers are raising prices, and the flippers are still asking 3 times what they paid,

Without being nosy, can I ask what state and county?

Anonymous said...

response to 140. palm beach county,FL, one of those... golf developments. yes.. crazy isnt it. but right now the local used house sales company has 3 houses pending over 2 mil and one for 6. mine isnt anywhere near that. its surreal, I still cant figure it out. they actually have sold 25 % more houses in 07 than 06, or so they say....maybe they have ....
they just dumped 10 mil in their golf course. me, I am in a holding pattern...

Anonymous said...

SFHB,

Heres a guy shorting his house in Lighthouse Point who owns 3 other houses in S Fla.

HAECHERL,STEPHANIE & HAECHERL,ZANE

Anonymous said...

ms jupiter,

That is really surprising about your development especially considering that in Palm Beach there is a 100 month supply of existing homes over $1 mil.
It goes to show you that the people with money are more active than the average Joe in buying, which also helps prop up the 'median price' myth.
I can only imagine what the hoa fee's are like in a place like that.
I checked on a waterfront in Boca, gated community. It was around $1 mil, hoa were $900 month.

Anonymous said...

resp to 140. you are absolutely right. the real world is outside.
hoa fess 625/mo clb dues 5k/yr &86k. golf 150k&17k /yr. dock xtra.
its going to get interesting as
troll.... is offering free golf membership. 4.99 financing fixed 30/yr ,cut prices &new houses. Im glad I didnt jump in with both feet. On the other hand there are a lot of people who have a lot more $ than me who have. we wnat to move to lhp.

Anonymous said...

ms jupiter said...

resp to 140. you are absolutely right. the real world is outside.
hoa fess 625/mo clb dues 5k/yr &86k. golf 150k&17k /yr. dock xtra.

Does that mean $86k to join club plus $5k per year? And $1750k to join golf plus $17k per year?

Anonymous said...

resp to 140. like all of these clubs, poa & club are separate.
the hoa is 625/mo. club fees
86k join & 5k/year dues. that social. golf is 150k plus 17k year dues. there are 600 homes here,
2 foreclosures in past 2 years that got scooped up, and 65 houses current for sale.I am cheapest one, thats why hasnt sold I think not expensive/big enough,went over to troll today,to much like stepford for me & no water but nice houses.